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February 11, 2022 102 Comments
In today's Vortex, Michael Voris is interviewed by Teryn Gregson, host of the podcast Faithful Freedom With Teryn Gregson.
The Faithful Freedom podcast is a part of We the Patriots USA, Inc., a nonprofit organization whose goal is to create a powerful network of patriots to preserve and reclaim our God-given inalienable rights.
JohnJoseph • an hour ago Truth divides by its very nature!
Love means to want their eternal salvation!
Absolutely right!
guilty JohnJoseph • 33 minutes ago AND acting through, in and with that Love which manifests in humility, meekness, kindness, bearing one another's burden, charity, compassion, gentleness... There is a line there, and before using the whip, one might consider to what extent do I really imitate Christ? How righteous and worthy am I to hold that whip? Do I authentically desire their soul to be in Heaven with my own - that I've already placed there....
Brothers, if someone is caught in a trespass, you who are spiritual should restore him with a spirit of gentleness. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 2Carry one another’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ Gal 6:1-2
MsRain • 5 hours ago What a great interview Michael. I really appreciated what you had to say at the end most especially. To love someone, will cost you something. Thank you, and God bless you. 💗
Aaron Ocello • 11 hours ago There is no such thing as "atheism" as it's a very contradiction upon pronouncement i.e. is a contradiction of itself as God's existence is proven. One cannot hold what is not possible. They've taken the proofs for the existence of God out of modern DEeducation but the proofs for the existence of God are a staple in any undergraduate philosophy tract. They're called St Thomas's 5 proofs. You can't get to Catholicism via logic alone but the sheer existence of God and that He must for example be One, IS proven. Here's one. You see that things have a cause. If you don't assent to this you're simply a liar. IF you don't have a First Cause of all Himself Uncaused you have an infinite regress of causes of effects and never getting to the First Cause you never get in reverse logic to what you see today by neccessary result of this infinite regress. The infinity (i.e. NEVER ending of causes creates an insurmountable gap because if its inherent infinity insurmountable gap because if its inherent infinity insurmountable to suffice for the existence of anything you see that exists and has a cause of its existence. There MUST therefore by neccesity exist a FIRST Cause that is Himself Uncaused Who is God.
Stewart Davies • 17 hours ago Listening to the Jules Gomes interview, I both shocked yet, at the same time, not in the least surprised to hear that the WEF lists Pope Francis, along with Albert Bourla as "agenda contributors." This must surely indicate that there is regular communication between the Church, via the Vatican secretariat of state, and the WEF regarding the advancement of the latter's Great Reset global communist program..
David Martinez • 18 hours ago Another great interview of Michael Voris. I thought the host did a good job of asking very pertinent questions of the state of Christian faith today and specifically of the state of the Catholic Church. Impressive job all around!
JohnJoseph • 20 hours ago • edited Exactly right! Church teaching has always advocated for individual sovereignty (the rights of the person). This is why we fight to protect the unborn! Many like to use (or more correctly, misuse) Romans 13 - "Obey those in authority", but that doesn't mean blind obedience. God does give us reasons for dissent. Good interview!
Fr of 5 • 20 hours ago This was a very good interview. What made it exceptional were the answers provided by Michael to the questions. The answers where hard hitting truth bombs which I am sure made many people uncomfortable, including the interviewer! But, that did not dissuade Michael from saying it like it is! People need to know the unvarnished truth. Contrast this interview with Bishop Barron's interview with Ben Shapiro. More like Judas Iscariot's interview with Ben Shapiro. To this day whenever I think of Barron I think of his scandalous response to a question about salvation: "Catholicism is the preferred way of salvation...." Total bulls__t!!! But on par for a heretical modernist. Well done Michael!
Diane • 21 hours ago There is a statement that has always left me with a little trepidation and I would like the true explanation of it. "Whatever is bound on earth will also be bound in Heaven and whatever is loosed on earth will also be loosed in Heaven'. Does this give the Pope the right to change some things?
JohnJoseph Diane • 19 hours ago I'll give my perspective. I believe it refers to the personal conversation that Jesus had with the disciples, His seal of approval, or stewardship, that was imparted on them to carry out the Great Commission. I don't think the Pope is permitted to change dogma and I believe that holds true for doctrine too.
Diane JohnJoseph • 17 hours ago I agree with what you said, but I want someone in authority regarding this to tell me exactly what is meant by it. I want to know what can be loosened. It bothered me from the time I first heard these words.
guilty Diane • 2 hours ago • edited Diane, this is the Navarre Bible Commentary on this passage Mt 18:18:
This verse needs to be understood in connexion with the authority previously
promised to Peter (cf. Mt 16:13-19): it is the hierarchy of the Church that
exercises this power given by Christ to Peter, to the Apostles and their lawful
successors — the Pope and the Bishops.
It's important to not take passage out of the context its written. There is a copy of the Navarre Bible's Gospel of Matthew available on the internet and can be found by searching "Internet Archive" and typing in: "The Navarre Bible". You can also buy it at any Religious/Catholic bookstore or order it from any Catholic Publisher.
leogirl7 Diane • 17 hours ago Things that were loosened or changed:
1. People are no longer required to follow Jewish ceremonial laws and dietary customs (e.g. circumcision, not eating pork, laws regarding the temple that no longer exists).
2. Worship was moved from Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) to Sunday (Lord's Day), although people are free to also go to Mass on weekdays and Saturdays if they wish.
3. Laws around fasting aren't as harsh as they were before, although some of the more traditional groups still follow them. No meat on all Fridays, not just on Lent. Stricter fasting during Lent. Fasting during Advent.
4. Small changes to the Mass to reflect increased understanding of divine truths.
What cannot be loosened are doctrine and dogma. Our understanding of things can develop over time (e.g. Trinity, life of Mary), but it cannot contradict what has previously been revealed.
TruthHunter Larry_S • 21 hours ago What does it matter? As long as it's faithfully directed toward God and the Holy Trinity? I'm for both, as long as it is distinctly Catholic. Novua Ordo has been around since Catholics under the age of 60 were subjected to it. Some priests are very good holy priests who love the Lord and teach the faith in truth, others not so much.But how many TLM priests have been found recently in trouble for homosexuality? Your remarks point to pride. Pride is why Lucifer was banished from Heaven. Pride goeth before a fall. Got any humility and love? My mother always said "People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones". Put down your stones please, unless you want to board up your own houses.
leogirl7 TruthHunter • 16 hours ago Both Masses are valid, but IMO the TLM is better. NO was created for the young adults of the 1970s (50 years ago). It seems very dated with the felt banners, IKEA-like tables, shaking hands and dancing. Some of the plain designs remind me of Protestant sects who believe all images of Jesus, the Holy Family and the Saints are "idolatry." I love how the TLM ties back to the early Church and even Judaism. That's not saying that the NO is invalid or that people shouldn't attend NO if there's no TLM in the area. Or if you or the rest of your family hate TLM for some reason and you want to attend Mass together. (SSPX is in an irregular state so I don't recommend them at this time.)
There are bad priests in every group, just like there are bad Protestant pastors and bad public school teachers. Perverts will be drawn to places where they can be around their preferred gender and age group. I think it's more about improving the screening process and looking for warning signs that someone is being abused, than saying group X is bad because there are predators. If that were the case, nobody could ever join any group.
Robbi TruthHunter • 21 hours ago • edited I understand your point. I also understand the preference to the TLM and I love the TLM...It's intimate and soothing in a way the Novus Ordo isn't. When it concerns Mass, and I was in a hurry and juggling so many balls of life all at once; I was happy to get to either as an acceptable sacrifice to God. At this time in life, it's not as hectic as once it was...So, I prefer the TLM. Still, I will also go to the Novus Ordo. I get your point and it's well taken.
Michelle Campbell MickeyD • 16 hours ago Except Jesus? The Holy Ghost? Ven Archbishop Sheen? Nope!!!
Let's keep him covered in Rosaries!!! ❤❤❤❤
Blobee • a day ago Wow! It sure is tough to try to catch the world up with what we know is and has been going on in the Church. Lots of context needed, which means trying to briefly explain the complex movements of the Left in the Church in a few words. MV did an excellent job summarizing the situation, and especially the reason why it appears the Church is supporting the "Great Reset" and the jab.
I loved how he explained no true Catholic will willingly take that jab.
marcellusvides • a day ago Michael Voris was incredibly articulate throughout this interview: It should required viewing for all Catholics.
angelccorr • a day ago Thanks be to God, I have some common sense, a science degree, and a conscience. When the jab was being pushed by the Church and government, while at the same time hordes of illegals were allowed to come into the U.S. without knowing their health status, that's all it took for me to understand this so-called COVID vaccine has nothing to do with protecting me from getting sick, and anything (of course) to do with abortion is evil. There is no acceptable distance from it as some of the clergy claim.
Robbi • a day ago • edited Cut through the inane niceties of 'The Church of Nice' and went right into the weeds of the messiness
of 'The Church Discontent' trying to align itself with the Godless forces threatening to usurp all
authority in the world.
Experiencing another element thriving in the world having comprehension of the demarcation
of this spiritual battle inherent to the 'Church Militant' in opposition to Satan and the demonic
allowed goosebumps to rise in wonder of it all. Following yesterday's 'Deposit of the Faith' with
Bishop Strickland and Archbishop Vigano's Letter to the Canadian Truckers...Been a 'Banner Week'
for the souls of faith desperately needed.
Souls of the faithful are being strengthened with unity of Jesus;
'The Communion of the Saints'. What is coming?
Baseballmomof8 Robbi • a day ago That is the million dollar question. Our Blessed Lord will not tolerate the wickedness in the Church much longer.
Robbi Baseballmomof8 • a day ago No, I doubt the Lord will tolerate it much longer. He's working though. With all happening and the people rising around the world; something is happening. Been waiting for the Lord to put a fire under rumps for a long time.
Edward S Barth • a day ago Just last week I went to confession. I accused myself of improper language and pure anger over these covid restrictions. I told father the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches the Church can't force you to do anything that goes against a persons conscience, period. He said we are all tired of the vid.... he never answered me on a persons conscience.
We had one of our retired priests come back this Sunday, Fr. Baugh. He is 90 years old. Sunday he talked about hell and praying for lost souls. He talked about Fatima and the rosary. He talked about the children seeing hell. His sermons are always old school. When the Holy Spirit speaks through him, I sometimes squirm in my pew. That's a good thing.
Robbi Edward S Barth • a day ago When a Priest doesn't answer some fragment of a curiosity or piece of desired advice;
it's sometimes momentarily confusing and sometimes; it's never addressed.
Usually, it's a momentary situation. Pray for you that the answer is one easily
digested and maintained in the Lord.
William Knox • a day ago A good interview (per usual). But I would hesitate to characterize those who have taken the vax as not "real" Catholics. (FTR: I won't take the vax because it is tainted by abortion. At least, that was my initial objection ...) It is my understanding that under the moral teaching of the Church one may take the vaccine (while certainly no one is under obligation to do so). And I recall that if you take the vaccine you are under obligation to protest the immoral manner in which it was developed. But, the basic point is that taking vaccine is permissible and, if so, I would hesitate from saying that person is not a real Catholic.
I've never formally studied morality, but it seems to me that the matter is analogous to abolitionists who refused to wear cotton tainted by slavery. Not all abolitionists avoided products manufactured using slave labor (and I have greater respect for those who did so), but this did not necessarily make them complicit in slavery.
John Bedard William Knox • a day ago • edited My problem is, The Vatican is saying getting the Vaccine is a GOOD thing. That changes EVERYTHING!
Michelle Campbell John Bedard • a day ago Check the Vat's BIG PHARMA STOCKS portfolios.
Must be swelling with funds!? 💉🩹📈📊💰
Andrew Strope William Knox • a day ago • edited Any Catholic who got the jab had to know that Johnson and Johnson used aborted babies in their concoction and that Pzifer and Moderna used them in their research. Knowing that...why would anyone rollup their sleeve and be part of that? There is absolutely no good reason to do it. As to your seamless garment argument regarding slavery and abortion, lets be honest...there is no greater moral crime than the death and dismemberment of a child for what you consider a good. No good can ever come from an evil act. I understand that you did not get the jab for the reasons listed above, but it seems in the second paragraph you are giving those who did an excuse.
So, yes, I do believe that if a Catholic got the jab, they are not "real" Catholics. They follow the Pope at their own peril.
lmtellsho Andrew Strope • 13 hours ago This was a good interview but I think the remark about "real" Catholics never taking the jab was judgmental. There was a reason why the church was structured with bishops to lead --not a parade, but the pursuit of the truth and holiness. The "jab" issue was confounded for many Catholics in regard to the prevention of death promised by authorities initially, and the age implications. Risk vs.benefit. One isn't allowed to put oneself at risk ---no street hockey on I-96 OR the M 1-- and since not all folks are aware of the corruption of the bishops or what the alternatives are when facing this issue, many good Catholics did get the jab.
Bishops should have tied the vaccines to the larger issue of promoting the practice of killing infants for experimentation and donated body parts. It is morally equivalent to the murder of Weigers for their organs. Since there is an informational black hole growing it would be good not to do what Alinsky promoted-- shaming and name calling. Better to keep leading the pursuit of truth.
JohnnyCuredents William Knox • a day ago Yours is the reasonable position. My understanding is that the products of J&J and AstraZeneca are morally beyond the pale because they actually used fetal cell lines in the manufacture of these bioproducts, but that Pfizer and Moderna tested their offerings on said cells only after manufacture. Thus the cooperation with evil is said to be more remote in the latter two cases. Be that as it may, I now feel that even this remote cooperation is unacceptable for me. (I wish I had been as morally perspicacious as you indicate you were. Initially, my refusal to be a guinea pig was based on science, or better said the lack of same, the ugly rush to market and profit without proper testing of any of the fake "vaccines." The question of their moral taint only arose later in my mind.) Beyond the question of their inherent moral acceptability, though, it is clear to anyone who thinks about it that the Church's official position regarding them will strike most people as merely special pleading, as a dicey excuse to approve some highly questionable products for reasons having nothing to do with morality. In other words, the 'optics' here are damning.
Michelle Campbell JohnnyCuredents • a day ago • edited Been saying this initially in 2020.
Not enough testing, clinical trials were done.
As an 'old school trained' RN, l was appalled and objected to these
'vaccines' being rolled out so quickly.
I remember that one 'pharmacist' duking it out with me, saying l was
ignorant about it. Uh, uh!!! We parted on friendly terms, but he never came back to chat...why???
Now, we know they aren't what they claim to be.
They're 'experimental gene therapies' and the world is undergoing one
GINORMOUS CLINICAL TRIAL so pharma ghouls can sit back, count the
money and collect the statistics on 'side effects' including death....
💰💉📈📊💉💰
Matthew Rehrauer Michelle Campbell • 13 hours ago Michelle, my posts tend to get kind of long winded, so I figured I would break up my reply to comment on something you mentioned. You are an "old school trained RN." This explains a great deal. "Old School" nurses, especially Catholic trained, have within them the heart of Christ. It is their spirituality that they are involved in and are sharing in the love of and healing power of the Great Physician You and other true nurses are unwilling to allow evil to pollute the gift that is entrusted to you by God. The graced works that a nurse, as do all others who labor in love of Christ and neighbor, brings to Mass are offered to God with the Sacrifice of Christ Those graced works glorified the Father in Heaven, just as does the one Sacrifice of Christ. Receiving the fruits of his Sacrifice, we go into the world one with him and bring those fruits to the world by the works of our hands, aided by the Holy Spirit. We MUST do so. To do otherwise is Sacrilege. It is not surprising that one who does not share that spirituality would avoid conversing with you. It is to be expected.
Michelle Campbell Matthew Rehrauer • 12 hours ago • edited Thank you!!! 👍 Repeating this a second time to see if it gets scrubbed.
Michelle Campbell Matthew Rehrauer • 13 hours ago • edited Hi MR. This is my 5th message to answer you and I notice that my posts are being scrubbed mostly at night. 🤐
JohnJoseph • an hour ago Truth divides by its very nature!
Love means to want their eternal salvation!
Absolutely right!guilty JohnJoseph • 33 minutes ago AND acting through, in and with that Love which manifests in humility, meekness, kindness, bearing one another's burden, charity, compassion, gentleness... There is a line there, and before using the whip, one might consider to what extent do I really imitate Christ? How righteous and worthy am I to hold that whip? Do I authentically desire their soul to be in Heaven with my own - that I've already placed there....
Brothers, if someone is caught in a trespass, you who are spiritual should restore him with a spirit of gentleness. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 2Carry one another’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ Gal 6:1-2
MsRain • 5 hours ago What a great interview Michael. I really appreciated what you had to say at the end most especially. To love someone, will cost you something. Thank you, and God bless you. 💗
Aaron Ocello • 11 hours ago There is no such thing as "atheism" as it's a very contradiction upon pronouncement i.e. is a contradiction of itself as God's existence is proven. One cannot hold what is not possible. They've taken the proofs for the existence of God out of modern DEeducation but the proofs for the existence of God are a staple in any undergraduate philosophy tract. They're called St Thomas's 5 proofs. You can't get to Catholicism via logic alone but the sheer existence of God and that He must for example be One, IS proven. Here's one. You see that things have a cause. If you don't assent to this you're simply a liar. IF you don't have a First Cause of all Himself Uncaused you have an infinite regress of causes of effects and never getting to the First Cause you never get in reverse logic to what you see today by neccessary result of this infinite regress. The infinity (i.e. NEVER ending of causes creates an insurmountable gap because if its inherent infinity insurmountable gap because if its inherent infinity insurmountable to suffice for the existence of anything you see that exists and has a cause of its existence. There MUST therefore by neccesity exist a FIRST Cause that is Himself Uncaused Who is God.
Stewart Davies • 17 hours ago Listening to the Jules Gomes interview, I both shocked yet, at the same time, not in the least surprised to hear that the WEF lists Pope Francis, along with Albert Bourla as "agenda contributors." This must surely indicate that there is regular communication between the Church, via the Vatican secretariat of state, and the WEF regarding the advancement of the latter's Great Reset global communist program..
David Martinez • 18 hours ago Another great interview of Michael Voris. I thought the host did a good job of asking very pertinent questions of the state of Christian faith today and specifically of the state of the Catholic Church. Impressive job all around!
JohnJoseph • 20 hours ago • edited Exactly right! Church teaching has always advocated for individual sovereignty (the rights of the person). This is why we fight to protect the unborn! Many like to use (or more correctly, misuse) Romans 13 - "Obey those in authority", but that doesn't mean blind obedience. God does give us reasons for dissent. Good interview!
Fr of 5 • 20 hours ago This was a very good interview. What made it exceptional were the answers provided by Michael to the questions. The answers where hard hitting truth bombs which I am sure made many people uncomfortable, including the interviewer! But, that did not dissuade Michael from saying it like it is! People need to know the unvarnished truth. Contrast this interview with Bishop Barron's interview with Ben Shapiro. More like Judas Iscariot's interview with Ben Shapiro. To this day whenever I think of Barron I think of his scandalous response to a question about salvation: "Catholicism is the preferred way of salvation...." Total bulls__t!!! But on par for a heretical modernist. Well done Michael!
Diane • 21 hours ago There is a statement that has always left me with a little trepidation and I would like the true explanation of it. "Whatever is bound on earth will also be bound in Heaven and whatever is loosed on earth will also be loosed in Heaven'. Does this give the Pope the right to change some things?
JohnJoseph Diane • 19 hours ago I'll give my perspective. I believe it refers to the personal conversation that Jesus had with the disciples, His seal of approval, or stewardship, that was imparted on them to carry out the Great Commission. I don't think the Pope is permitted to change dogma and I believe that holds true for doctrine too.
Diane JohnJoseph • 17 hours ago I agree with what you said, but I want someone in authority regarding this to tell me exactly what is meant by it. I want to know what can be loosened. It bothered me from the time I first heard these words.
guilty Diane • 2 hours ago • edited Diane, this is the Navarre Bible Commentary on this passage Mt 18:18:
This verse needs to be understood in connexion with the authority previously
promised to Peter (cf. Mt 16:13-19): it is the hierarchy of the Church that
exercises this power given by Christ to Peter, to the Apostles and their lawful
successors — the Pope and the Bishops.It's important to not take passage out of the context its written. There is a copy of the Navarre Bible's Gospel of Matthew available on the internet and can be found by searching "Internet Archive" and typing in: "The Navarre Bible". You can also buy it at any Religious/Catholic bookstore or order it from any Catholic Publisher.
leogirl7 Diane • 17 hours ago Things that were loosened or changed:
1. People are no longer required to follow Jewish ceremonial laws and dietary customs (e.g. circumcision, not eating pork, laws regarding the temple that no longer exists).
2. Worship was moved from Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) to Sunday (Lord's Day), although people are free to also go to Mass on weekdays and Saturdays if they wish.
3. Laws around fasting aren't as harsh as they were before, although some of the more traditional groups still follow them. No meat on all Fridays, not just on Lent. Stricter fasting during Lent. Fasting during Advent.
4. Small changes to the Mass to reflect increased understanding of divine truths.What cannot be loosened are doctrine and dogma. Our understanding of things can develop over time (e.g. Trinity, life of Mary), but it cannot contradict what has previously been revealed.
TruthHunter Larry_S • 21 hours ago What does it matter? As long as it's faithfully directed toward God and the Holy Trinity? I'm for both, as long as it is distinctly Catholic. Novua Ordo has been around since Catholics under the age of 60 were subjected to it. Some priests are very good holy priests who love the Lord and teach the faith in truth, others not so much.But how many TLM priests have been found recently in trouble for homosexuality? Your remarks point to pride. Pride is why Lucifer was banished from Heaven. Pride goeth before a fall. Got any humility and love? My mother always said "People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones". Put down your stones please, unless you want to board up your own houses.
leogirl7 TruthHunter • 16 hours ago Both Masses are valid, but IMO the TLM is better. NO was created for the young adults of the 1970s (50 years ago). It seems very dated with the felt banners, IKEA-like tables, shaking hands and dancing. Some of the plain designs remind me of Protestant sects who believe all images of Jesus, the Holy Family and the Saints are "idolatry." I love how the TLM ties back to the early Church and even Judaism. That's not saying that the NO is invalid or that people shouldn't attend NO if there's no TLM in the area. Or if you or the rest of your family hate TLM for some reason and you want to attend Mass together. (SSPX is in an irregular state so I don't recommend them at this time.)
There are bad priests in every group, just like there are bad Protestant pastors and bad public school teachers. Perverts will be drawn to places where they can be around their preferred gender and age group. I think it's more about improving the screening process and looking for warning signs that someone is being abused, than saying group X is bad because there are predators. If that were the case, nobody could ever join any group.
Robbi TruthHunter • 21 hours ago • edited I understand your point. I also understand the preference to the TLM and I love the TLM...It's intimate and soothing in a way the Novus Ordo isn't. When it concerns Mass, and I was in a hurry and juggling so many balls of life all at once; I was happy to get to either as an acceptable sacrifice to God. At this time in life, it's not as hectic as once it was...So, I prefer the TLM. Still, I will also go to the Novus Ordo. I get your point and it's well taken.
Michelle Campbell MickeyD • 16 hours ago Except Jesus? The Holy Ghost? Ven Archbishop Sheen? Nope!!!
Let's keep him covered in Rosaries!!! ❤❤❤❤
Blobee • a day ago Wow! It sure is tough to try to catch the world up with what we know is and has been going on in the Church. Lots of context needed, which means trying to briefly explain the complex movements of the Left in the Church in a few words. MV did an excellent job summarizing the situation, and especially the reason why it appears the Church is supporting the "Great Reset" and the jab.
I loved how he explained no true Catholic will willingly take that jab.
marcellusvides • a day ago Michael Voris was incredibly articulate throughout this interview: It should required viewing for all Catholics.
angelccorr • a day ago Thanks be to God, I have some common sense, a science degree, and a conscience. When the jab was being pushed by the Church and government, while at the same time hordes of illegals were allowed to come into the U.S. without knowing their health status, that's all it took for me to understand this so-called COVID vaccine has nothing to do with protecting me from getting sick, and anything (of course) to do with abortion is evil. There is no acceptable distance from it as some of the clergy claim.
Robbi • a day ago • edited Cut through the inane niceties of 'The Church of Nice' and went right into the weeds of the messiness
of 'The Church Discontent' trying to align itself with the Godless forces threatening to usurp all
authority in the world.
Experiencing another element thriving in the world having comprehension of the demarcation
of this spiritual battle inherent to the 'Church Militant' in opposition to Satan and the demonic
allowed goosebumps to rise in wonder of it all. Following yesterday's 'Deposit of the Faith' with
Bishop Strickland and Archbishop Vigano's Letter to the Canadian Truckers...Been a 'Banner Week'
for the souls of faith desperately needed.
Souls of the faithful are being strengthened with unity of Jesus;
'The Communion of the Saints'. What is coming?Baseballmomof8 Robbi • a day ago That is the million dollar question. Our Blessed Lord will not tolerate the wickedness in the Church much longer.
Robbi Baseballmomof8 • a day ago No, I doubt the Lord will tolerate it much longer. He's working though. With all happening and the people rising around the world; something is happening. Been waiting for the Lord to put a fire under rumps for a long time.
Edward S Barth • a day ago Just last week I went to confession. I accused myself of improper language and pure anger over these covid restrictions. I told father the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches the Church can't force you to do anything that goes against a persons conscience, period. He said we are all tired of the vid.... he never answered me on a persons conscience.
We had one of our retired priests come back this Sunday, Fr. Baugh. He is 90 years old. Sunday he talked about hell and praying for lost souls. He talked about Fatima and the rosary. He talked about the children seeing hell. His sermons are always old school. When the Holy Spirit speaks through him, I sometimes squirm in my pew. That's a good thing.Robbi Edward S Barth • a day ago When a Priest doesn't answer some fragment of a curiosity or piece of desired advice;
it's sometimes momentarily confusing and sometimes; it's never addressed.
Usually, it's a momentary situation. Pray for you that the answer is one easily
digested and maintained in the Lord.
William Knox • a day ago A good interview (per usual). But I would hesitate to characterize those who have taken the vax as not "real" Catholics. (FTR: I won't take the vax because it is tainted by abortion. At least, that was my initial objection ...) It is my understanding that under the moral teaching of the Church one may take the vaccine (while certainly no one is under obligation to do so). And I recall that if you take the vaccine you are under obligation to protest the immoral manner in which it was developed. But, the basic point is that taking vaccine is permissible and, if so, I would hesitate from saying that person is not a real Catholic.
I've never formally studied morality, but it seems to me that the matter is analogous to abolitionists who refused to wear cotton tainted by slavery. Not all abolitionists avoided products manufactured using slave labor (and I have greater respect for those who did so), but this did not necessarily make them complicit in slavery.
John Bedard William Knox • a day ago • edited My problem is, The Vatican is saying getting the Vaccine is a GOOD thing. That changes EVERYTHING!
Michelle Campbell John Bedard • a day ago Check the Vat's BIG PHARMA STOCKS portfolios.
Must be swelling with funds!? 💉🩹📈📊💰
Andrew Strope William Knox • a day ago • edited Any Catholic who got the jab had to know that Johnson and Johnson used aborted babies in their concoction and that Pzifer and Moderna used them in their research. Knowing that...why would anyone rollup their sleeve and be part of that? There is absolutely no good reason to do it. As to your seamless garment argument regarding slavery and abortion, lets be honest...there is no greater moral crime than the death and dismemberment of a child for what you consider a good. No good can ever come from an evil act. I understand that you did not get the jab for the reasons listed above, but it seems in the second paragraph you are giving those who did an excuse.
So, yes, I do believe that if a Catholic got the jab, they are not "real" Catholics. They follow the Pope at their own peril.
lmtellsho Andrew Strope • 13 hours ago This was a good interview but I think the remark about "real" Catholics never taking the jab was judgmental. There was a reason why the church was structured with bishops to lead --not a parade, but the pursuit of the truth and holiness. The "jab" issue was confounded for many Catholics in regard to the prevention of death promised by authorities initially, and the age implications. Risk vs.benefit. One isn't allowed to put oneself at risk ---no street hockey on I-96 OR the M 1-- and since not all folks are aware of the corruption of the bishops or what the alternatives are when facing this issue, many good Catholics did get the jab.
Bishops should have tied the vaccines to the larger issue of promoting the practice of killing infants for experimentation and donated body parts. It is morally equivalent to the murder of Weigers for their organs. Since there is an informational black hole growing it would be good not to do what Alinsky promoted-- shaming and name calling. Better to keep leading the pursuit of truth.
JohnnyCuredents William Knox • a day ago Yours is the reasonable position. My understanding is that the products of J&J and AstraZeneca are morally beyond the pale because they actually used fetal cell lines in the manufacture of these bioproducts, but that Pfizer and Moderna tested their offerings on said cells only after manufacture. Thus the cooperation with evil is said to be more remote in the latter two cases. Be that as it may, I now feel that even this remote cooperation is unacceptable for me. (I wish I had been as morally perspicacious as you indicate you were. Initially, my refusal to be a guinea pig was based on science, or better said the lack of same, the ugly rush to market and profit without proper testing of any of the fake "vaccines." The question of their moral taint only arose later in my mind.) Beyond the question of their inherent moral acceptability, though, it is clear to anyone who thinks about it that the Church's official position regarding them will strike most people as merely special pleading, as a dicey excuse to approve some highly questionable products for reasons having nothing to do with morality. In other words, the 'optics' here are damning.
Michelle Campbell JohnnyCuredents • a day ago • edited Been saying this initially in 2020.
Not enough testing, clinical trials were done.
As an 'old school trained' RN, l was appalled and objected to these
'vaccines' being rolled out so quickly.
I remember that one 'pharmacist' duking it out with me, saying l was
ignorant about it. Uh, uh!!! We parted on friendly terms, but he never came back to chat...why???
Now, we know they aren't what they claim to be.
They're 'experimental gene therapies' and the world is undergoing one
GINORMOUS CLINICAL TRIAL so pharma ghouls can sit back, count the
money and collect the statistics on 'side effects' including death....
💰💉📈📊💉💰Matthew Rehrauer Michelle Campbell • 13 hours ago Michelle, my posts tend to get kind of long winded, so I figured I would break up my reply to comment on something you mentioned. You are an "old school trained RN." This explains a great deal. "Old School" nurses, especially Catholic trained, have within them the heart of Christ. It is their spirituality that they are involved in and are sharing in the love of and healing power of the Great Physician You and other true nurses are unwilling to allow evil to pollute the gift that is entrusted to you by God. The graced works that a nurse, as do all others who labor in love of Christ and neighbor, brings to Mass are offered to God with the Sacrifice of Christ Those graced works glorified the Father in Heaven, just as does the one Sacrifice of Christ. Receiving the fruits of his Sacrifice, we go into the world one with him and bring those fruits to the world by the works of our hands, aided by the Holy Spirit. We MUST do so. To do otherwise is Sacrilege. It is not surprising that one who does not share that spirituality would avoid conversing with you. It is to be expected.
Michelle Campbell Matthew Rehrauer • 12 hours ago • edited Thank you!!! 👍 Repeating this a second time to see if it gets scrubbed.
Michelle Campbell Matthew Rehrauer • 13 hours ago • edited Hi MR. This is my 5th message to answer you and I notice that my posts are being scrubbed mostly at night. 🤐
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