Monday, July 31, 2017

Rand Paul Blocks NDAA Over Indefinite Detention



Rand Paul Blocks NDAA Over Indefinite Detention

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by Tyler Durden
Jul 31, 2017 12:38 PM
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Sen. Rand Paul (R – KY) has blocked a motion by majority leader Mitch McConnell (R – KY) to advance the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the massive military spending bill, saying that the bill should instead face debate and possible amendments.
This sets the bill back for 6 weeks, at least.
In particular, Sen. Paul is seeking two amendments, one which ends NDAA authorization for indefinite detention of suspects, and another related to the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF), something that was added to the House version but later quietly removed by the Speaker.
Paul’s protest is expected to delay the NDAA vote through at least the August recess, meaning a vote is unlikely until September. While this gives plenty of time for amendments to be debated, it’s not clear the Senate leadership will allow that no matter how much time they’re given.
Indeed, Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Sen. John McCain (R – AZ) was critical of any delay on any grounds, insisting the bill and its huge spending increase are a “solemn obligation” for the Senate to pass without delay.
"It is unfortunate that one senator chose to block consideration of a bill our nation needs right now," McCain said in a statement.

"We must uphold our solemn obligation to provide for the common defense and give our men and women in uniform the training, equipment, and resources they need to defend the nation. Our brave service members — many now serving in harm's way — deserve nothing less."
Other Senators have repeatedly been angry with Sen. Paul for not getting
their way on bills, but the military spending bill is such a large one
it’s likely to be particularly unpopular to debate, as quietly slipping
it through is the way these things usually go.
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Rick Cerone's picture
Rick Cerone Jul 31, 2017 12:39 PM
Pray for Rand Paul.
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E-Knight  Rick Cerone Jul 31, 2017 12:42 PM
He is one of the few legit people left. You have endless RINOs like mcconnel/mccain etc serving various you know whos.
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ACP  E-Knight Jul 31, 2017 12:46 PM
McStain's "solemn obligation" to death, destruction and the elimination of civil liberties.
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chumbawamba  ACP Jul 31, 2017 1:55 PM
Yeah, it sounds like the brain cancer is pretty well progressing. Hopefully it'll hollow out his skull and he'll drop dead on live television during one of his pathetic public rants.
Die John McShitStain. Die you horrible son of a whore.
I am Chumbawamba.
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Winston Churchill  chumbawamba Jul 31, 2017 2:01 PM
Can't help but feel sorry, for the cancer that is.
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froze25  Winston Churchill Jul 31, 2017 2:23 PM
Oh, McCain says we must pass it? Then it must be stopped!!
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cheka  chumbawamba Jul 31, 2017 2:03 PM
99 ziocucks and rand paul
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Big Creek Rising  chumbawamba Jul 31, 2017 2:59 PM
His death will indeed benefit the nation and the world.
Happily, we have no televised access to what will surely be exhaustive MSM coverage of his life and death - just thinking of all the saccharine tributes his criminal colleagues will offer makes me hurl, but there is some comfort in knowing that Lindsey-in-a-skirt will be devastated and suffer great emotional stress.
Who will Little Lindsey dance with when zer big maverick is gone?
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enfield0916  Big Creek Rising Jul 31, 2017 3:11 PM
I am sure the Libtars will have Johnny PedoSta deliver a few "pizzas" to Lindsey's house in a jiffy if McStain dies.
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Miss Expectations  chumbawamba Jul 31, 2017 3:11 PM
Meanwhile, be on the lookout for a "Weekend at Bernies" or wheelchair genius Stephen Hawking type pronouncements from McCain. 
We may never see him again...we'll just get warmongering shit tweets from his supposed account.
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ChanceIs  chumbawamba Jul 31, 2017 3:16 PM
Very cheesy.  I hate what he does as much as the next guy.  But you go too far.
I must confess that I was very close to the edge when Teddy "I didn't know she was in the trunk" Kennedy developed his brain tumor.
The sad thing is that if you show respect and grace to the Dems, they will spit in your eye.
It's OK to grind them under your boot - in fact it has to happen if we are to have peace and prosperity - you just can't smile while you are doing it.
So, so glad that the Awan brothers will pull the entire Dem establishment down with them.
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American Psycho  E-Knight Jul 31, 2017 12:48 PM
I'm sure this development will do wonders for McCain's stres level.  I hope he gets into the WH one day. 
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Deathrips  American Psycho Jul 31, 2017 12:54 PM
While I might not agree with rand on many things..i support this.
He addresses the NDAA which eliminated journalistic "integrity" in 2012. This has been a primary root cause of the division in the country perpetuated by scripted (((((divisionists)))).

Blocking the NDAA would put those that bear false witness in jeopardy of facing consequences for their treasonous actions.

BTW....audit the fed!

RIPS
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Chupacabra-322  Deathrips Jul 31, 2017 1:30 PM
John,
May you die an Agonizing Death. You're nothing more than a revolting, Treasonous, Tyrannical Lawless, War Criminal at Large Deep State piece of Shit!
In April 2013, GOP Senator McCain at an Idlib, Syria Terrorist Gathering Pledged US Money and Weapons to Ex-US POW Ibrahim Al-Badri of the “Free Syrian Army,”an Al Qaeda Leader Then Already Among Washington’s Five Most Wanted Terrorists with a $10 Million Reward on His Head; McCain’s Moderate Democratic Protege Badri Was Simultaneously Emir of ISIS, Styling Himself Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, and Now Claims to Rule the World as Caliph Ibrahim of the Restored Caliphate — So Why Hasn’t McCain Been Indicted?
-Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
Rand,
It's about time you retort with the obvious.
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Dsyno  Chupacabra-322 Jul 31, 2017 1:43 PM

"It is unfortunate that one senator chose to block consideration of a bill our nation needs right now," McCain stated regarding his own ObamaCare repeal vote.
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greenskeeper carl  Dsyno Jul 31, 2017 1:57 PM
An honest, informative media would ask McCain et al an obvious question: if the country and our troops need this bill so badly, why not just do as Paul and many Americans ask and remove these provisions from the bill so our troops can get these things you say they need? They would then aslcmccain why it's so important to give the federal government the ability to indefinitely detain US citizens on US soil that he would deprive our troops of these things.
Why doesn't Rand Paul say that, on TV, during the many interviews he gives? Seems a simple matter that even boobus Americans could wrap his feeble mind around.
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WillyGroper  Deathrips Jul 31, 2017 1:49 PM
"This has been a primary root cause of the division in the country perpetuated by scripted (((((divisionists))))."
Bravo!
perhaps we'll get lucky & mcstain will transmutate to his not so happy hunting ground.
"BTW....audit the fed!"
incinerate the fed...fify.
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Twee Surgeon  Rick Cerone Jul 31, 2017 12:46 PM
Pray for rand paul and write to Mitch MC Connell and tell him why you think what he is doing is wrong and why he should not do it.
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Give Me Some Truth  Rick Cerone Jul 31, 2017 1:36 PM
Hmm. Who to support here? Rand Paul? John McCain. Paul? McCain? Ron Paul's son? Lindsey Graham's hero?
Paul? McCain? Paul? McCain?
Ah, Just kidding.
Rand. F-ing. Paul.
Which means that the "beloved" McCain will receive overwhelming support from the masses, from the Establishment, from the press. After all, everything he does is "for the troops" and "for freedom."
Everything he does screws the troops (makes it more likely they end up dead or maimed or mental cases) and, as for advancing freedom, everything he does takes away freedoms at home and builds up government.

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rwmctrofholz Jul 31, 2017 12:41 PM
Rand Paul going to make a run in 2020?
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DogeCoin Jul 31, 2017 12:43 PM
Thank you Rand. One of the few representatives that cares for America.
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Give Me Some Truth  DogeCoin Jul 31, 2017 1:45 PM
No, didn't you read McCain's statement? Rand Paul does not support "our troops" or "freedom." John McCain does though. By supporting more wars and a bigger surveillance/security state. 
... I read it in a magazine.
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Akzed Jul 31, 2017 12:41 PM
"It is unfortunate that one senator chose to block consideration of a bill our nation needs right now," McCain said in a statement.
The man has no shame, literally.
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E-Knight  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 12:42 PM
When is this guy going to die already?
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hardmedicine  E-Knight Jul 31, 2017 3:00 PM
Die motherfucker.  Die McCain 
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Bavarian  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 12:43 PM
Incredible lack of shame.  What a failed human being.  Another case for being unfit for duty as he can't even remember back to last Thursday. 
He should be given a complete neuological check. 
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Twee Surgeon  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 12:48 PM
He has brain damage and should retire. He is 80 years old. These old guys are a National Security issue in themselves.
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New_Meat  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 12:54 PM
no shame and no memory neither
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East Indian  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 1:03 PM
ironic if not moronic. 


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t0mmyBerg  Akzed Jul 31, 2017 1:23 PM
McCain really is a POS.  Another fine example of why US Term Limits vs Thornton was the second saddest day in the history of American Jurisprudence (the 2012 ACA decision being the worst)
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Herp and Derp Jul 31, 2017 12:41 PM
Maybe McCain will be dead by then.  We can only hope.
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Bavarian Jul 31, 2017 12:41 PM
Oh, how the deep state resents such questioning.  What, justify our defense spending?  The horror!
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ONEwarrior Jul 31, 2017 12:41 PM
Repeal ACA First, then Maybe.
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whosyerdaddy Jul 31, 2017 12:42 PM
It is unfortunate one Senator blocked the repeal of obamacare.
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Mike Masr  whosyerdaddy Jul 31, 2017 12:48 PM
Yes, that dirty cock sucker McCain.
Die already and roast in Hell!
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joeyman9  whosyerdaddy Jul 31, 2017 1:35 PM
Actually there were two women repubs who blocked it also (Merkowski and Snow).
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Maltese Beagle  joeyman9 Jul 31, 2017 1:50 PM
"Actually there were two women repubs who blocked it also (Merkowski and Snow)."
But McCain chose to go last, to say, "FY".
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GlassHouse101 Jul 31, 2017 12:42 PM
Rand: The Neocon antidote
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AmericanFUPAcabra Jul 31, 2017 12:43 PM
Nothing about removing the permanent state of emergency (that we have been in since 2001 and gets extended every NDAA). Meh.
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small axe  AmericanFUPAcabra Jul 31, 2017 12:47 PM
shhhhhh....they want to fund our illegal bases and war in Syria without anyone noticing.
Who needs the War Powers Act when you've got John McCain, warmonger extraordinaire
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BetweenThe Coasts  AmericanFUPAcabra Jul 31, 2017 1:27 PM
That is how they get around having to declare WAR for real reasons, just approperating money is a tacit o.k.
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joeyman9  AmericanFUPAcabra Jul 31, 2017 1:34 PM
Nothing about removing the State of Emergency from March 1933 which authorized the administrative state and denigrated the constitution and it's bill of rights either.
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Tarjan Jul 31, 2017 12:44 PM
Beginning to think that Rand Paul would be the better POTUS. He certainly stands by his principles.
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El Vaquero  Tarjan Jul 31, 2017 12:48 PM
Put him into the POTUS position, and he'd get eaten alive.  Do you want to start, and I mean only start, fixing things?  K Street needs to be burned to the ground.  
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East Indian  El Vaquero Jul 31, 2017 1:20 PM
The first one to wade into a cesspool should not be encumbered by any principles.
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fbazzrea  East Indian Jul 31, 2017 2:29 PM
you're right. in the heat of battle one's sense of direction is lost.
Sen Paul is the perfect successor.
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cherry picker  Tarjan Jul 31, 2017 12:49 PM
I agree.  He doesn't run with the crowd.
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Dumpster Elite  Tarjan Jul 31, 2017 1:26 PM
If you watched during the Republican debates, he was never given ANY time to actually give his viewpoints. He was basically "shut up" by the RNC and the MSM.
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BigCumulusClouds  Dumpster Elite Jul 31, 2017 1:32 PM
Rand Paul fucked himself when he attacked DJT. He made himself look like an insider from which he never recovered. I knew he was toast the moment he did that one stupid thing. And it was the first thing he did. Then he said he was in it for the long haul and then dropped out. The Romney endorsement didn't help him either.
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