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February 14, 2022 40 Comments
In today's Vortex, Michael Voris speaks to Tim Gordon about the danger in the traditionalist Catholic movement.
Signorelli • 7 minutes ago My evangelical friends believe that Francis is an Anti- Christ . These are the same people that admired Pope John II . The current state of the Catholic church is a hard sell - actually impossible to the Protestant evangelicals. Many ex- Catholics have used the Church's sex scandals as an excuse to leave the Church . The current Pope and his associations with the globalists , reak of influence and corruption. Bergolio did not stay in his lane regarding the vaccine and frankly could have stayed completely out of it . This is his association with Bill Gates , et al. He could have been well meaning but the position is too high profile to send out Knee jerk responses . The science is not settled
and as we now see, the vaccine is not effective .- 4 Jabs in one year ? The risk benefit data is being suppressed is it the worst data collection in science in the past 2 centuries . Bergolio is elderly and likely in pain from ailments - you can see it when he walks . His public persona has a personality that seems to be ego driven . This may or may not be magnified in private .
The idea of the greater good for the greater number and the use of the vaccine is not as clear as it seems . This was well intentioned to tell vunerable people to get the vaccine . The issue abortion " remote " in the cell lines . ( tell that on that other side ) was up to the individual conscience of the recipient .
David Deleiden has shown that there is a booming industry in aborted baby parts for research .
"Crickets " from the Vatican . Francis needs to clean up his own house before he points the finger at anyone else .
Authority? . Ecclestiastical authority yes but Francis has lost moral authority . No one really listens to him anymore . He is being managed.
Fred Williams • 10 minutes ago This is the first time I must disagree with Michael and Church Militant on Jorge Bergoglio. I agree with Doctor Taylor Marshall on calling Bergoglio a Heretic. The quote by Saint Bellerman nails it. Bergoglio is a Heritic, continues to be a Hertic on almost a daily basis. I am a convert that came to the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church in 2013 when Jorge Bergoglio was elected Pope. I have completely embraced the teaching of the Church and well aware that everything in know by God and will be corrected in His time. However we must do our part through and call the proverbial spade a spade. I have been to several Church Militant Resistance events and have watch great good from these events in turning the evil that has permeated the Church back to the good. I evangelize every chance the Holy Spirit presents to me. What is the difference in going after the evil sex predators, doing our best in eliminating from their evil and calling Jorge a Heretic. What is the greater sin, the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Deacons and Laity knowing all the evil that is occurring and not reporting it to the Laity or the Laity calling the Pope What he is, a Heretic. I condem the former and embrace the Latter. Bernadine, McCarrick Cupich, Joseph Tobin, Vignoron, Dolan, Flores, Gustav Garcia Spiller, Callahan, and on and on, all Heretics. What does the term "Anti Christ mean, in my mind it is anyone that denies the TRUTH, " I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!" as Father Alman said on many occasions, "God gave us a brain let us use it." I will always be loyal to Church Militant and will attend every Resistance event I am capable of when it is monetarily feasible and my health permits. VIVA CHRISTO REY.
c dento • 37 minutes ago There is a reason the current Pope picked the name Francis. Was he signaling what he thought of the church and what needed to be done? But he went through Formation before he became a Priest, was it liberation Theology from Obama's Chicago? But the better question is what is going on in the world - one Corporate Ring to rule them all? The Pope does not resign in normal circumstances. In 2009 just before Benedict resigned, he went to the tomb of Pope St. Celestine V who was also forced to resign and then placed in prison. Within the Church leadership you have Marxists Communist operatives injecting disunity. Stop feeding into their game because that is how they destroy everything including nations. Get out of your head and get back to spreading the devotion of love. I like this wisdom, Never get into a mud wrestling contest with a pig. You get dirty and the Marxist PIGS enjoy it. Oh, in Saint France time, the Norman's were conquesting Catholic Kingdoms in Italy and they never left but now their seed is bored with religion, they got rockets, big tech and junk science in the vial to extend abortion from zero to 100+ that is what you need to worry about.
mrgees • 44 minutes ago CM: In today's Vortex, Michael Voris speaks to Tim Gordon about the danger in the traditionalist Catholic movement - it is MIA. Just so you know. Thank you for these 4m though. It was very good.
Val1 • an hour ago It would be more charitable to correct someone without assuming and impugning their motives.
Cajun Robear • an hour ago Pope Francis is a heretic who is obviously guided by power, money, and deviancy - not by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.. He espouses worldly views over the Word of God. And to make matters worse, he has stacked the deck by installing other like-minded people in the Vatican, making the voting system for the next Pope worse than if they were using Dominion voting machines.
Jack McGrath Cajun Robear • an hour ago Well said. We owe allegiance to the truth first and foremost.
Peter Molloy • an hour ago Every morning one of the first things I do is pray for the Pope.
We know our Priests are always under spiritual attack so we have to imagine that for a Pope, the spiritual attacks are orders of magnitude greater than for Priests.
We have to trust and understand that no matter what ‘appears’ to be happening today in the world, that God will use all things for our good.
Let’s all make it a point of daily praying for the Pope and for the Church.
Pray, hope and do not worry.
Rick Pearl • an hour ago The Catholic Church (triumphant, penitent, militant) belongs to Jesus and Him alone. Now Lucifer and his fallen brothers are a tricky lot. The post-modernists neo-marxists running the Church will get their comeuppance, meanwhile we are being tested. Will we retreat/surrender or stand and fight. Many people find a reason(s) to give up and quit. I will not let today's bishops drive me away, because when you quit, the devil wins and the game over. Don't quit, stand and fight!
Seth • 2 hours ago • edited Off topic> . Mature audiences only !
If you think the Biden regime was the lowest level of debauchery you've ever seen, get ready for this.
And the bigger point of this, Where is the Outrage from the Republican Party i??.......
Crickets, as usual.
And of course, silence from the Zionist controlled Media.
So you naive polly anna's who think getting some RINO's out of the Rep Party will do anything, put your heads back in the sand where they have been for the last 50 years.
A recent, high-level hire at the Department of Energy’s Office of Nuclear Energy is a drag queen, LGBTQ+ activist who has “lectured” on kink at college campuses and participated in interviews about fetish roleplay. In one interview, Sam Brinton – now a top Biden official – even discusses having sex with animals.
renegadetribune*com/top-doe...
Also, you people here that excuse Pro Sodomy Politicians because of their Pro Life stance, get ready for Bestiality to be "normalized" by your Government, thanks to Your silence and support.
Signorelli Seth • 3 minutes ago It seems as we are headed that way . The fall of the Roman empire - globally
I will check out Sam Briton - the inmates are running the asylum for sure .
Hunter_2 Seth • 4 minutes ago • edited I agree with almost everything you posted, as I read reports about the drag queen, and the gay activist, also the discussions of having sex with animals. Bestiality has already been normalized in Europe where they actually had an erotic zoo for those who wanted sex with animals. Right now, "it is entirely legal for a man or woman in Texas to walk into a pet store, buy a dog, take that dog home and then have sex with it." The facts will make you sick. "You can also do it in chilly Finland or on the beaches of Hawaii as well as in Japan and certain parts of Australia, which also do not prohibit sexual activities between humans and animals." Although not officially "normalized" in this country, it is allowed in America and other countries all over the planet.
Many of us have showed outrage of the Republican party as well as showing our disgust for these immoral practices. Those of us who have had the "means" of trying to make a difference are either still rotting in prison and/or have had their lives totally ruined. Take a good look at the truckers and see how far they've progressed with people who are every bit as evil as President Xi and are hellbent on destroying capitalism along with our freedom.
Kathryn Lucas • 2 hours ago If this vortex is because of Dr. Marshalls recent explanation about
a teaching of the Pope he considers heresy, I would like to point out that he never said Pope Francis was not a validly elected Pope The situation in the Church today is like the father of a family being abusive. He is still the Father and the other members are just stuck with it and must survive the best way they can if they are Catholic. You still have to honor your father even if he does cruel and abusive acts.
Sensei52 • 2 hours ago • edited Michael, In you're own Vortex 2/10/22 YOU state that there are TWO churches now, the real Catholic church and the atheistic communistic antichurch, the "church of nice" as you correctly coined it. You even called it Katholic, (with a K). Who do you say is the leader then of the church of nice?
John Bedard • 2 hours ago • edited If I remember right, Michael, in a VORTEX, said, "Pope Francis needs to resign". I thought to my self', I know Michael believes Pope Francis is a validly elected Pope. How can a Pope "resign" if he is not a validly elected Pope". I have already seen videos trying to make Michael out to be a "hypocrite".
I totally REJECT anyone who says Vatican II, the election of Pope Francis, the Novus Ordo Mass, ETC are not "VALID". I consider them Right Wing Hijackers of the Faith no better than Left Wing Hijackers. I have NO TOLERANCE for catholics that have JUMPED SHIP. They can all go to Hell if they want to, I can't stop them.
Jesus Christ IS the KING of KINGS and He is more than just "allowing" all this division to happen. We are living through a CHASTISMENT!
NOW is the time to CHOOSE.
VIVA CRISTO REY!
Sensei52 John Bedard • 32 minutes ago • edited The point is NOT to jump ship. I think that is exactly what Francis wants! You are right...we need to stay in the Church and follow the teachings of the last two thousand years and NOT the ramblings of someone who clearly has a hatred for faithful catholic people.
I agree, fight for the King of kings...stay and fight. This is a chastisement. The modernist have infiltrated and highjacked the bride of Christ (at least its human element). You cannot turn and run like Martin Luther did....you need to stay, pray and say the truth of the Gospel. Say the truth..that is the weapon to fight with....the Holy Incarnate TRUTH of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
St. Joan • 2 hours ago If a man sins, he will go to hades. If a Bishop sins, he goes to hades and takes 10,000 with him
ddavidson • 3 hours ago The Pope (Francis that is) was legitimately elected but in preaching heresy (which he obviously has recently) he has excommunicated (removed) himself from that position of legitimacy and can longer speak infallibly on any doctrinal issue or matter of dogma. Is this correct?
FarmerJ John Bedard • 36 minutes ago So now I’m confused. Let me reiterate what’s being said here. Because the Pope taught heresy, he has excommunicated himself and can no longer speak infallibly on doctrine or dogma. Now, the Holy Spirit will make sure that he can’t speak in error, even though he was supposedly protected by infallibility before he spoke the first error. ?
docyar • 3 hours ago Just because Francis was duly elected doesn't mean he isn't a TERRIBLE pope leading people into heresy.
springfieldlp • 3 hours ago We have two imposters ruling the world and directed by Satan and his legion of demons.
Biden is President and was legally and constitutionally installed into that office. Are there unresolved questions about the integrity of the election results? Absolutely. Were they properly addressed and adjudicated by courts and commissions? No, the courts punted but some states are still investigating. Do the Democrats want to instill into law the voting manipulations in order to control elected public office for their party in all future elections? Yes they do and they showed their hand with their attempt to legalize that which is not legal or constitutional in the federal takeover of election law. None of this is good but none of it at this point in time changes the fact that Biden is President. He and his party control the levers of power in the USA and not only are they doing a terrible job at everything they are doing it deliberately in service to a higher power - the evil of this world.
Likewise, our pope Bergoglio, as Michael says was properly and duly elected as pope within the 2013 conclave. Were there discussions among certain cardinals to vote for him? Probably but we'll never know that for sure. Did certain cardinals force Benedict to resign? Again we do not know the answer to this. Unlike our US elections the one for a pope is done in secret. We do know that Benedict was a great and holy pope, faithful to tradition and steering us away from the great sin of moral relativism. I believe there is ample evidence that this pope, while sometimes he does say good and righteous things, is either confused or corrupt. Regardless, the Catholic Church is not well served by this pope but sadly - intentionally or not - Satan is. Satan revels in the confusion and moral relativism that this pope is sowing. We can only pray that the next pope (soon, please God) provides us truth, honesty, clarity, wisdom and restores tradition and God's law within the church. Too much damage is occurring to our great church and Our Lady of Garabandal - in Her most important and most recent message warned us; "Many Cardinals, many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them." No words from any other person will be more important to me than Hers.
Gary • 3 hours ago • edited Am I missing something, or have you accidentally cut off the posted Vortex interview with Mr. Gordon? The Vortex is only 4 minutes long and it begins with MV saying "a point needs to be made here. ".... without knowing what precedes that remark??
mrgees • 3 hours ago I have recently had a catechism class at which I was teaching the kids how to recognize true religion from the false ones and how to detect sects and false prophets and visionaries. Kids very quickly understood that if someone comes with a revelation of any sort and has no hard evidence of God pre announcing the event and the person, then it is something to be rejected. Try it yourself. For example where was Mohammed announced?
There is a reason why God said "I will build my Church." There is a reason why in Credo we say "I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" but there is no "believe in the Pope, the Bishop, friends, own intellect, own faith, science, etc"
When we got the Devine Mercy Chaplet, there is a reason why we got these words: "O blood and water, which gushed forth from the heart of Jesus as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in You".
This blood and water from the side of the New Adam "sleeping" on the tree off Life is a Woman - the Church. Hold on to Her and don't allow yourself to be scandalized.
Do not be afraid. People always wanted to destroy Her. From without and from within. She always buried Her enemies. She will do it again. This may not be in our life time but from the eternity point of view it will be shorter than a blink of an eye. What we need to do is to repent while all that stress is for our benefit. It is that "talent" we got. Don't burry it!
Moses answered the people, “Do not be afraid, for God has come only to test you and put the fear of him upon you so you do not sin.”
AcceptingReality • 4 hours ago So, who's job is it, hypothetically speaking, if a pope is a bad pope and swerves into heretical statements, who's job is it to warn people less they be led astray? If the clergy doesn't do it, who then should do it?
ddavidson AcceptingReality • 3 hours ago Heresy must always be publicly condemned. This surely is the duty of any member of the body of Christ.
AcceptingReality ddavidson • an hour ago I think so, too, dd. I guess the point is we can't go off half cocked. There's a right way and wrong way. But I wonder how recent this interview is. Because I know there was, and maybe still is, a sort of a feud between some Catholic YouTubers and different independent Catholic media. So I wonder if this was an excerpt from something old just to make a point about certain comments on recent articles.
Michelle Campbell • 9 hours ago • edited Thank you for this insight Michael & Christine.
I didn't know that only the Holy Father could make that pronouncement about a
former pope.
It has distressed me and others that Bergoglio's affiliations have been with
Geopolitical players that don't have mankind's best interests in mind.
Pachemama, Jeffrey Sachs who has those close to Bergoglio's ear willing to hear him out, other population eradicaters, Bergoglio saying he wants the confusion
on and on....
Is it too late for Bergoglio to co-operate with God's grace?
Is a reaffirmation of TLM something Bergoglio needs to address?
How does Bergoglio explain that American Cardinals show holy reasons for closing down Catholic Churches, selling the properties off, thus depriving those
neighborhoods of Christ's Real Presence?
This is very serious and is it a punishment, eradicating Our Lord like in Chicago
to make that violent city become even worse?
Who also is 'leading people astray'?
I do wish l could tell the difference between FSSP and SSPX followers on this Catholic chat room.
So these are 'schismatic' groups? Sigh....
Guess I'll have to slog through who's who....
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Jack McGrath Michelle Campbell • 29 minutes ago Michele, what insights? We have no idea of what instigated this interview. Just a bunch of THOU SHALT NOTS from M and C.
KV Urquidi Michelle Campbell • an hour ago FSSP is in full Communion with the Church. SSPX is in an irregular position .
Signorelli • 7 minutes ago My evangelical friends believe that Francis is an Anti- Christ . These are the same people that admired Pope John II . The current state of the Catholic church is a hard sell - actually impossible to the Protestant evangelicals. Many ex- Catholics have used the Church's sex scandals as an excuse to leave the Church . The current Pope and his associations with the globalists , reak of influence and corruption. Bergolio did not stay in his lane regarding the vaccine and frankly could have stayed completely out of it . This is his association with Bill Gates , et al. He could have been well meaning but the position is too high profile to send out Knee jerk responses . The science is not settled
and as we now see, the vaccine is not effective .- 4 Jabs in one year ? The risk benefit data is being suppressed is it the worst data collection in science in the past 2 centuries . Bergolio is elderly and likely in pain from ailments - you can see it when he walks . His public persona has a personality that seems to be ego driven . This may or may not be magnified in private .The idea of the greater good for the greater number and the use of the vaccine is not as clear as it seems . This was well intentioned to tell vunerable people to get the vaccine . The issue abortion " remote " in the cell lines . ( tell that on that other side ) was up to the individual conscience of the recipient .
David Deleiden has shown that there is a booming industry in aborted baby parts for research .
"Crickets " from the Vatican . Francis needs to clean up his own house before he points the finger at anyone else .Authority? . Ecclestiastical authority yes but Francis has lost moral authority . No one really listens to him anymore . He is being managed.
Fred Williams • 10 minutes ago This is the first time I must disagree with Michael and Church Militant on Jorge Bergoglio. I agree with Doctor Taylor Marshall on calling Bergoglio a Heretic. The quote by Saint Bellerman nails it. Bergoglio is a Heritic, continues to be a Hertic on almost a daily basis. I am a convert that came to the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church in 2013 when Jorge Bergoglio was elected Pope. I have completely embraced the teaching of the Church and well aware that everything in know by God and will be corrected in His time. However we must do our part through and call the proverbial spade a spade. I have been to several Church Militant Resistance events and have watch great good from these events in turning the evil that has permeated the Church back to the good. I evangelize every chance the Holy Spirit presents to me. What is the difference in going after the evil sex predators, doing our best in eliminating from their evil and calling Jorge a Heretic. What is the greater sin, the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Deacons and Laity knowing all the evil that is occurring and not reporting it to the Laity or the Laity calling the Pope What he is, a Heretic. I condem the former and embrace the Latter. Bernadine, McCarrick Cupich, Joseph Tobin, Vignoron, Dolan, Flores, Gustav Garcia Spiller, Callahan, and on and on, all Heretics. What does the term "Anti Christ mean, in my mind it is anyone that denies the TRUTH, " I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!" as Father Alman said on many occasions, "God gave us a brain let us use it." I will always be loyal to Church Militant and will attend every Resistance event I am capable of when it is monetarily feasible and my health permits. VIVA CHRISTO REY.
c dento • 37 minutes ago There is a reason the current Pope picked the name Francis. Was he signaling what he thought of the church and what needed to be done? But he went through Formation before he became a Priest, was it liberation Theology from Obama's Chicago? But the better question is what is going on in the world - one Corporate Ring to rule them all? The Pope does not resign in normal circumstances. In 2009 just before Benedict resigned, he went to the tomb of Pope St. Celestine V who was also forced to resign and then placed in prison. Within the Church leadership you have Marxists Communist operatives injecting disunity. Stop feeding into their game because that is how they destroy everything including nations. Get out of your head and get back to spreading the devotion of love. I like this wisdom, Never get into a mud wrestling contest with a pig. You get dirty and the Marxist PIGS enjoy it. Oh, in Saint France time, the Norman's were conquesting Catholic Kingdoms in Italy and they never left but now their seed is bored with religion, they got rockets, big tech and junk science in the vial to extend abortion from zero to 100+ that is what you need to worry about.
mrgees • 44 minutes ago CM: In today's Vortex, Michael Voris speaks to Tim Gordon about the danger in the traditionalist Catholic movement - it is MIA. Just so you know. Thank you for these 4m though. It was very good.
Val1 • an hour ago It would be more charitable to correct someone without assuming and impugning their motives.
Cajun Robear • an hour ago Pope Francis is a heretic who is obviously guided by power, money, and deviancy - not by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.. He espouses worldly views over the Word of God. And to make matters worse, he has stacked the deck by installing other like-minded people in the Vatican, making the voting system for the next Pope worse than if they were using Dominion voting machines.
Jack McGrath Cajun Robear • an hour ago Well said. We owe allegiance to the truth first and foremost.
Peter Molloy • an hour ago Every morning one of the first things I do is pray for the Pope.
We know our Priests are always under spiritual attack so we have to imagine that for a Pope, the spiritual attacks are orders of magnitude greater than for Priests.
We have to trust and understand that no matter what ‘appears’ to be happening today in the world, that God will use all things for our good.
Let’s all make it a point of daily praying for the Pope and for the Church.
Pray, hope and do not worry.Rick Pearl • an hour ago The Catholic Church (triumphant, penitent, militant) belongs to Jesus and Him alone. Now Lucifer and his fallen brothers are a tricky lot. The post-modernists neo-marxists running the Church will get their comeuppance, meanwhile we are being tested. Will we retreat/surrender or stand and fight. Many people find a reason(s) to give up and quit. I will not let today's bishops drive me away, because when you quit, the devil wins and the game over. Don't quit, stand and fight!
Seth • 2 hours ago • edited Off topic> . Mature audiences only !
If you think the Biden regime was the lowest level of debauchery you've ever seen, get ready for this.And the bigger point of this, Where is the Outrage from the Republican Party i??.......
Crickets, as usual.
And of course, silence from the Zionist controlled Media.
So you naive polly anna's who think getting some RINO's out of the Rep Party will do anything, put your heads back in the sand where they have been for the last 50 years.
A recent, high-level hire at the Department of Energy’s Office of Nuclear Energy is a drag queen, LGBTQ+ activist who has “lectured” on kink at college campuses and participated in interviews about fetish roleplay. In one interview, Sam Brinton – now a top Biden official – even discusses having sex with animals.
renegadetribune*com/top-doe...
Also, you people here that excuse Pro Sodomy Politicians because of their Pro Life stance, get ready for Bestiality to be "normalized" by your Government, thanks to Your silence and support.
Signorelli Seth • 3 minutes ago It seems as we are headed that way . The fall of the Roman empire - globally
I will check out Sam Briton - the inmates are running the asylum for sure .
Hunter_2 Seth • 4 minutes ago • edited I agree with almost everything you posted, as I read reports about the drag queen, and the gay activist, also the discussions of having sex with animals. Bestiality has already been normalized in Europe where they actually had an erotic zoo for those who wanted sex with animals. Right now, "it is entirely legal for a man or woman in Texas to walk into a pet store, buy a dog, take that dog home and then have sex with it." The facts will make you sick. "You can also do it in chilly Finland or on the beaches of Hawaii as well as in Japan and certain parts of Australia, which also do not prohibit sexual activities between humans and animals." Although not officially "normalized" in this country, it is allowed in America and other countries all over the planet.
Many of us have showed outrage of the Republican party as well as showing our disgust for these immoral practices. Those of us who have had the "means" of trying to make a difference are either still rotting in prison and/or have had their lives totally ruined. Take a good look at the truckers and see how far they've progressed with people who are every bit as evil as President Xi and are hellbent on destroying capitalism along with our freedom.
Kathryn Lucas • 2 hours ago If this vortex is because of Dr. Marshalls recent explanation about
a teaching of the Pope he considers heresy, I would like to point out that he never said Pope Francis was not a validly elected Pope The situation in the Church today is like the father of a family being abusive. He is still the Father and the other members are just stuck with it and must survive the best way they can if they are Catholic. You still have to honor your father even if he does cruel and abusive acts.Sensei52 • 2 hours ago • edited Michael, In you're own Vortex 2/10/22 YOU state that there are TWO churches now, the real Catholic church and the atheistic communistic antichurch, the "church of nice" as you correctly coined it. You even called it Katholic, (with a K). Who do you say is the leader then of the church of nice?
John Bedard • 2 hours ago • edited If I remember right, Michael, in a VORTEX, said, "Pope Francis needs to resign". I thought to my self', I know Michael believes Pope Francis is a validly elected Pope. How can a Pope "resign" if he is not a validly elected Pope". I have already seen videos trying to make Michael out to be a "hypocrite".
I totally REJECT anyone who says Vatican II, the election of Pope Francis, the Novus Ordo Mass, ETC are not "VALID". I consider them Right Wing Hijackers of the Faith no better than Left Wing Hijackers. I have NO TOLERANCE for catholics that have JUMPED SHIP. They can all go to Hell if they want to, I can't stop them.
Jesus Christ IS the KING of KINGS and He is more than just "allowing" all this division to happen. We are living through a CHASTISMENT!
NOW is the time to CHOOSE.
VIVA CRISTO REY!
Sensei52 John Bedard • 32 minutes ago • edited The point is NOT to jump ship. I think that is exactly what Francis wants! You are right...we need to stay in the Church and follow the teachings of the last two thousand years and NOT the ramblings of someone who clearly has a hatred for faithful catholic people.
I agree, fight for the King of kings...stay and fight. This is a chastisement. The modernist have infiltrated and highjacked the bride of Christ (at least its human element). You cannot turn and run like Martin Luther did....you need to stay, pray and say the truth of the Gospel. Say the truth..that is the weapon to fight with....the Holy Incarnate TRUTH of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
St. Joan • 2 hours ago If a man sins, he will go to hades. If a Bishop sins, he goes to hades and takes 10,000 with him
ddavidson • 3 hours ago The Pope (Francis that is) was legitimately elected but in preaching heresy (which he obviously has recently) he has excommunicated (removed) himself from that position of legitimacy and can longer speak infallibly on any doctrinal issue or matter of dogma. Is this correct?
FarmerJ John Bedard • 36 minutes ago So now I’m confused. Let me reiterate what’s being said here. Because the Pope taught heresy, he has excommunicated himself and can no longer speak infallibly on doctrine or dogma. Now, the Holy Spirit will make sure that he can’t speak in error, even though he was supposedly protected by infallibility before he spoke the first error. ?
docyar • 3 hours ago Just because Francis was duly elected doesn't mean he isn't a TERRIBLE pope leading people into heresy.
springfieldlp • 3 hours ago We have two imposters ruling the world and directed by Satan and his legion of demons.
Biden is President and was legally and constitutionally installed into that office. Are there unresolved questions about the integrity of the election results? Absolutely. Were they properly addressed and adjudicated by courts and commissions? No, the courts punted but some states are still investigating. Do the Democrats want to instill into law the voting manipulations in order to control elected public office for their party in all future elections? Yes they do and they showed their hand with their attempt to legalize that which is not legal or constitutional in the federal takeover of election law. None of this is good but none of it at this point in time changes the fact that Biden is President. He and his party control the levers of power in the USA and not only are they doing a terrible job at everything they are doing it deliberately in service to a higher power - the evil of this world.
Likewise, our pope Bergoglio, as Michael says was properly and duly elected as pope within the 2013 conclave. Were there discussions among certain cardinals to vote for him? Probably but we'll never know that for sure. Did certain cardinals force Benedict to resign? Again we do not know the answer to this. Unlike our US elections the one for a pope is done in secret. We do know that Benedict was a great and holy pope, faithful to tradition and steering us away from the great sin of moral relativism. I believe there is ample evidence that this pope, while sometimes he does say good and righteous things, is either confused or corrupt. Regardless, the Catholic Church is not well served by this pope but sadly - intentionally or not - Satan is. Satan revels in the confusion and moral relativism that this pope is sowing. We can only pray that the next pope (soon, please God) provides us truth, honesty, clarity, wisdom and restores tradition and God's law within the church. Too much damage is occurring to our great church and Our Lady of Garabandal - in Her most important and most recent message warned us; "Many Cardinals, many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them." No words from any other person will be more important to me than Hers.
Gary • 3 hours ago • edited Am I missing something, or have you accidentally cut off the posted Vortex interview with Mr. Gordon? The Vortex is only 4 minutes long and it begins with MV saying "a point needs to be made here. ".... without knowing what precedes that remark??
mrgees • 3 hours ago I have recently had a catechism class at which I was teaching the kids how to recognize true religion from the false ones and how to detect sects and false prophets and visionaries. Kids very quickly understood that if someone comes with a revelation of any sort and has no hard evidence of God pre announcing the event and the person, then it is something to be rejected. Try it yourself. For example where was Mohammed announced?
There is a reason why God said "I will build my Church." There is a reason why in Credo we say "I believe in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" but there is no "believe in the Pope, the Bishop, friends, own intellect, own faith, science, etc"
When we got the Devine Mercy Chaplet, there is a reason why we got these words: "O blood and water, which gushed forth from the heart of Jesus as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in You".
This blood and water from the side of the New Adam "sleeping" on the tree off Life is a Woman - the Church. Hold on to Her and don't allow yourself to be scandalized.Do not be afraid. People always wanted to destroy Her. From without and from within. She always buried Her enemies. She will do it again. This may not be in our life time but from the eternity point of view it will be shorter than a blink of an eye. What we need to do is to repent while all that stress is for our benefit. It is that "talent" we got. Don't burry it!
Moses answered the people, “Do not be afraid, for God has come only to test you and put the fear of him upon you so you do not sin.”
AcceptingReality • 4 hours ago So, who's job is it, hypothetically speaking, if a pope is a bad pope and swerves into heretical statements, who's job is it to warn people less they be led astray? If the clergy doesn't do it, who then should do it?
ddavidson AcceptingReality • 3 hours ago Heresy must always be publicly condemned. This surely is the duty of any member of the body of Christ.
AcceptingReality ddavidson • an hour ago I think so, too, dd. I guess the point is we can't go off half cocked. There's a right way and wrong way. But I wonder how recent this interview is. Because I know there was, and maybe still is, a sort of a feud between some Catholic YouTubers and different independent Catholic media. So I wonder if this was an excerpt from something old just to make a point about certain comments on recent articles.
Michelle Campbell • 9 hours ago • edited Thank you for this insight Michael & Christine.
I didn't know that only the Holy Father could make that pronouncement about a
former pope.
It has distressed me and others that Bergoglio's affiliations have been with
Geopolitical players that don't have mankind's best interests in mind.
Pachemama, Jeffrey Sachs who has those close to Bergoglio's ear willing to hear him out, other population eradicaters, Bergoglio saying he wants the confusion
on and on....
Is it too late for Bergoglio to co-operate with God's grace?
Is a reaffirmation of TLM something Bergoglio needs to address?
How does Bergoglio explain that American Cardinals show holy reasons for closing down Catholic Churches, selling the properties off, thus depriving those
neighborhoods of Christ's Real Presence?
This is very serious and is it a punishment, eradicating Our Lord like in Chicago
to make that violent city become even worse?
Who also is 'leading people astray'?
I do wish l could tell the difference between FSSP and SSPX followers on this Catholic chat room.
So these are 'schismatic' groups? Sigh....
Guess I'll have to slog through who's who....
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Jack McGrath Michelle Campbell • 29 minutes ago Michele, what insights? We have no idea of what instigated this interview. Just a bunch of THOU SHALT NOTS from M and C.
KV Urquidi Michelle Campbell • an hour ago FSSP is in full Communion with the Church. SSPX is in an irregular position .
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